tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2587775651487578742.post2989949050082050316..comments2024-03-29T22:29:54.844+13:00Comments on Cinematic Paradox: Day 4: Harry Potter and the Goblet of FireStevee Taylorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12284769251750574447noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2587775651487578742.post-75658576396926748122011-12-20T01:36:47.301+13:002011-12-20T01:36:47.301+13:00"Minerva McGonagall said inception! She said ..."Minerva McGonagall said inception! She said inception!" LOL. My reaction is always odd when I hear or see this word.Lesyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11785171567540455637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2587775651487578742.post-1231141197643339012011-12-19T20:29:56.191+13:002011-12-19T20:29:56.191+13:00Nikhat - The tournament was pretty awesome. But I ...<b>Nikhat</b> - The tournament was pretty awesome. But I personally got really freaked out by that water one. Especially when Harry turned into a fish. Yuck.<br />Casting Ralph Fiennes in anything is the best thing ever. Unless it's Clash of the Titans. He was too good for that film.<br /><br /><b>Ruth</b> - Yes, Fiennes is the best casting choice! But you can't beat Rickman.<br /><br /><b>Sati</b> - Twilight ruined him in the way that it might be the only thing people remember him for. But he can break out of it. I thought he was great pre-Twilight and also in Water for Elephants. I had major problems with Remember Me, though.<br />That's a good choice for your top performance!<br /><br /><b>Nick</b> - Well, it sounds like this would have been better off it stuck to the book. A thriller/mystery is exactly what I'd like to have seen.<br />I miss Dobby!<br />Sirius is so absent from most of the films, which is a shame. He looked like a character who had potential.<br />Haha, I just thought that hard-core HP fans would want me to call him "he who shall not be named".<br /><br /><b>Steven</b> - Voldemort's resurrection was awesome!<br />I really need to read these books!<br /><br /><b>Castor</b> - I will definitely read the books over the holidays!Stevee Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12284769251750574447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2587775651487578742.post-24792558975118567752011-12-18T22:03:23.600+13:002011-12-18T22:03:23.600+13:00The characters coming and going is a constant prob...The characters coming and going is a constant problem in the series. I highly recommend that you read the books at some point because the movies really don't touch on a good 30% of the subplots in the books which help understand the overall context of the entire story better.Castorhttp://www.anomalousmaterial.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2587775651487578742.post-54669655946284827812011-12-18T15:37:01.570+13:002011-12-18T15:37:01.570+13:00This film was kind of a letdown after POA though V...This film was kind of a letdown after POA though Voldermort's resurrection made the film worth watching.<br /><br />My issues with the film over the years wasn't just some of the direction of Mike Newell which wasn't adventurous enough. It was the fact that they didn't really do more to set up the next film as they cut out an entire section from the book that was crucial to the story which involved a falling out between Dumbledore and Minister of Magic Cornelius Fudge over Voldermort's return and what Harry saw.thevoid99https://www.blogger.com/profile/03055459287396592446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2587775651487578742.post-5536850814204455582011-12-18T14:20:49.382+13:002011-12-18T14:20:49.382+13:00Yeah, what you had a problem with, Stevee, was tha...Yeah, what you had a problem with, Stevee, was that you picked up on the fact it was adapted poorly from the book. It tried to include too much, and too much of the wrong things. And on top of that, it chose the wrong genre. The GoF book is a thriller/mystery, not an action film. Yes, it does have light-hearted moments, but it's also strung with loads of darkness and intrigue. There is, in particular, some stuff about Snape, Karkaroff, Bellatrix (who you will meet in the next film), and Neville's parents that was either cut or was given out as off-hand comments (Neville also gets the shaft in the next movie, too... at least in comparison to the book. Though you won't be able to tell just from watching).<br /><br />There is a crap-ton of stuff cut out of this movie. Rita Skeeter has a HUGE sub-plot that builds in to the next book which was removed. Fred and George have bigger roles, which builds into the next book. Harry's overall win of the tournament also ties into Fred and George's subplot and their inevitable choices in the next book. The entire Quidditch World Cup was removed (all you saw was the setup and the attack. The World Cup doesn't actually end until roughly 200 pages into the book. Yeah... it's the first 15 minutes of the movie. That should tell you how much was cut). There were 4 characters removed. I mentioned Bellatrix, who is supposed to be in the pensieve scene. Then there's Dobby, who is supposed to return in this one and is there for the rest of the series. Winky, another house elf, makes her appearance in the book, which sparks a subplot for Hermione about House-Elf Liberation that spans almost the rest of the series. Ludo Bagman is a red herring character that has ties to Fred/George's subplot.<br /><br />The actual dance is only 1 chapter in the book, yet it's probably about a third of the movie. The movie made Hermione WAY too pretty starting in Prisoner of Azkaban, making her big reveal at the dance to be... less than exciting since she just looks normal but in a dress. This was supposed to be her big "pretty" reveal.<br /><br />The other contestants, save for maybe Cedric, are all but removed from the movie. Fleur and Krum are both decently sized characters, and Fleur especially gains a larger role later on.<br /><br />Probably the movie's biggest offense, though (besides the bastardization of Dumbledore)? Sirius. This is the book where Harry and Sirius become much closer and you start really feeling for Sirius and his situation. Yates tries to make up for it in the next film, but this was totally wasted. He was given one scene in a very poorly done CGI fire (which looks nothing as described in the books... it's done better with Yates).<br /><br />Barty Crouch Jr.'s tongue thing was also really weird and unnecessary. Overall, it just wasn't a strong adaptation of the book. It's like it saw the action scenes and the love stuff and focused on that (though it took out more suspense from the third task, as it removed large chunks from it and kinda changed what the task's danger was). If they did anything right, it was the graveyard scene, which is actually rather brilliant. Of course, the "Remember Cedric" moment is cut to pieces and made as almost nothing in the film, and then Dumbledore doesn't explain Priori Incantatem whatsoever, allowing the rest of the films to bizarrely have any wizard battle do a Priori Incantatem wand-lock.<br /><br />Finally... "Voldy" is nothing new :P . Hardcore HP fans have been calling him that for YEARS!Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08092564511948736386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2587775651487578742.post-20108313998820743722011-12-18T03:04:36.601+13:002011-12-18T03:04:36.601+13:00I think Pattinson is far from being ruined - he is...I think Pattinson is far from being ruined - he is chosing very interesting projects lately and he delivers good performances, etc. Remember me, Water for Elephants.<br />I love Fiennes's performance in SL too and it's my #2 of best performances ever, right after Ledger in Brokeback Mountain.s.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13987831438787776712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2587775651487578742.post-223496081795914282011-12-17T23:45:09.548+13:002011-12-17T23:45:09.548+13:00I haven't read the fourth book for a long time...I haven't read the fourth book for a long time, but I did enjoy the film - there was a massive influx of characters from what I remember of the book, so I think the film did pretty well plot-wise. <br />Fiennes is probably the best casting choice made this franchise - excepting Rickman!!Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00175638828147935702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2587775651487578742.post-5276414851757602452011-12-17T22:35:35.333+13:002011-12-17T22:35:35.333+13:00This is among the "funner" films for the...This is among the "funner" films for the people who don't read the books, because of the tournament. Odd you didn't talk about that because I really love the first and second tasks.<br /><br />Casting Ralph Fiennes as Voldie has to be one of the smartest moves that the producers did. He is brilliant by the end.<br /><br />I hate the film when compared to the book, but as such, I think it has its own charm in the "Uh-oh, puberty just struck!" way.Nikhathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10379713171889712078noreply@blogger.com